honeyfirst.doc 15 Jan 2004

THE FIRST HONEYS

My confirmed Honey line begins on another file - see HoneySecond These are the early estimates of the tree and still need to be properly confirmed.

This tree is provided to family historians without prejudice. I have constructed most of my family trees using the data I have available, and in a few cases it is estimated as the best fit from available choices. In this tree, several of the links are yet to be proved, so any help that you can give to confirm any line would be appreciated by me and others searching in this family. More modern families also need your inputs, because as I can link modern families to each other, and thus it enables a focus on their common ancestry. The memories of one branch may not be complete, but yet may fill in gaps of another branch. Only by a concerted effort can we really define the true lineage. Help me to help you by sharing what you have. Many additional details have been provided by other researchers and where possible I have included the contributor's email addresses within the file next to their families, however there are countless others also involved. I am willing to also add you in to your HONEY family. My thanks to you all. Ken STEWART < kjstew@iinet.net.au > 2003

ABBREVIATIONS USED

Other than the standard abbreviations and Chapman County codes I also use

(OPR) to show I extracted the data myself from the parish registers on microfilm, or have been given the full details. Specifically (OPR-OPC) is extracted register materials from the Online Parish Clerk

(IGI reg) to designate source of IGI materials with "registers" source codes

(IGI or IGI patron) to show IGI materials with another source (not always reliable)

"c" before year date to show an estimated year

"cc" before year date to show I have used the spouse's date data as a rough guide

A POSSIBLE PRE-HISTORY

I am still working on this analysis

There are numerous families of HONEY on the Northern Parishes of Cornwall - as indicated by register entries from the IGI

Morwenstow (3), Kilkhampton (25), Poughill (0), Stratton (51), Launcells (1), Marhamchurch (5), Poundstock (4), Jacobstow (30), Week St Mary (12), Whitstone (29), North Tamerton () and Boyton (12)

Many of these are dated into the 1600's and some even earlier

Some 10 km to the south of South Petherwin and Lewannick, there is also a massive HONEY family in St Cleer (61), and in the surrounding parishes of St Neot (5), Liskeard (5), Menheniot (38), St Ive (), Linkinhorne (), North Hill () and Quethiock ().

Out to the West of Launceston all the parishes seem to have a smattering of Honey families. Few have large numbers so are probably "seeded" from one of the bigger early families. One family from St Gennys have migrated to Ontario, Canada

Further into central Cornwall another large collection of families are centred around St Stephen in Brannell (65), with smaller numbers around in Roche (2), St Mewan (5), St Austell (4),

Southern Cornwall also has its smattering of families. Redruth has a large colony but this may be part of the mining community that has existed there for many centuries.

The South Petherwin & Lewannick family appears to have been located there from around 1700. They seem to be a rural family - agricultural labourers, yeomen and farmers. There is a possible family of Samuel HONEY and Elizabeth of Jacobstow who may be the parents of William bp. 1684

THE FIRST GENERATION

THE SOUTH PETHERWIN FAMILY OF HONEYS

This family file is still very much “DRAFT” and some details need to be fully checked before they can be accepted as a family ancestry line.

The history of the family can be found at The Honey History

(1) one WILLIAM HONY

b. c1700 South Petherwin, Con, Eng.

There is a possible family of Samuel HONEY and Elizabeth of Jacobstow who may be the parents of William bp. 1684

m. 17 Aug 1724 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (William of Sth Petherwin, OPR-OPC)

JOAN DOWN

b. c1700 Con, Eng. - six children

1.	William HONY bp. c1725 Con, Eng. - see family of William & Deborah below
2.	John HONNY bp. 22 Oct 1727 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. - see family of John & Elizabeth below
3.	Joan HONY b. c1731 d. 1738
4.	Richard HONY b. c1733 - see family of Richard & Grace below
5.	James HONY bp. 20 Jun 1736 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o William/ Joan, OPRs) - see family of James & Elizabeth below
6.	Samuel HONY bp. 15 Apr 1739 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o William/ Joan, OPRs)

see the second generation

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(2) one THOMAS HONNY

b. c1700 Con, Eng.

m. 23 Feb 1730 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC)

FRANCIS MARSHELL

b. c1700 Con, Eng. - children

1.	Samuel HONY b. c1731 d. c1747

others ??

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THE SECOND GENERATION

WILLIAM'S DESCENDENTS

First child of William HONEY and Joan DOWN

(2) William HONY b. c1725 m1 to

Deborah b. cc1725

1.	Elizabeth HONY bp. 5 Apr 1752 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o William/ Deborah OPRs)
2.	Samuel HONY bp. 16 Mar 1755 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o William/ Deborah, OPRs)
3.	James HONY bp. 1 Oct 1758 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o William/ Deborah, OPRs)

second marriage of William HONEY m. c1760 Con, Eng. m/to

Mary

4.	William
5.	Elizabeth HONY bp. 24 Jan 1762 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o William/ Mary, OPRs) - possibly this Elizabeth married 14 Apr 1789 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC) m/to Thomas DUENCE b. cc1762 Con, Eng.

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Second child of William HONEY and Joan DOWN

(1) John HONNY bp. 22 Oct 1727 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. m1. c1750 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. bd. 19 Mar 1797 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. m1/to

Elizabeth bd. 1751

1.	Elizabeth HONY bp. 3 Apr 1751 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Elizabeth, OPR)

likely second marriage of John Hony m2. 21 Jun 1752 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC) m2/to

Mary MARTIN

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Joan HONEY bp. 10 Dec 1752 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Mary, OPRs) A. John HONEY bp. 24 Dec 1775 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (baseborn s/o Joan HONY, OPRs) occ: ag lab (60) in 1841, likely this John m. 1 Jun 1828 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC) m/to Jane HARRIS b. 1782 Con, Eng. occ: wife (58) in 1841

1841 census - # Lewa 8/11/15 Pollifant, Lewannick, Con, Eng.

HONEY	John	1780	hd	m	60	ag lab
HONEY	Jane	1782	-	f	58	---

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	later Joan possibly married 30 Jan 1782 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. m/to Richard HARVEY b. cc1752 Con, Eng.
2.	Mary HONEY bp. 7 Sep 1755 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Mary, OPRs)
3.	John HONEY bp. 29 Jul 1759 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o John/ Mary, OPRs) m. 16 May 1782 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. m/to Mary CORNISH likely bp. 16 May 1762 Lewannick, Con, Eng. (d/o John & Mary, OPRs) likely d. 1828 - eight children ‑ see third generation family at john2
4.	Richard HONEY b. c1767 Con, Eng. (s/o John/Mary as uncle to son of John (1759) - see family at richard3
5.	William HONEY bp. 13 Jun 1770 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o John/ Mary, OPRs)
6.	Grace HONEY bp. 3 Jan 1773 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Mary, OPRs) m. 1807 m/to John DAVEY

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Third child of William HONEY and Joan DOWN

Joan HONY b. c1731 d. 1738

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Fourth child of William HONEY and Joan DOWN

(1) Richard HONY b. c1733 d. 27 Mar 1797 Jacobston, Con, Eng. a yeoman of Jacobstow.

Grace (she was first married to John Ruse, with children Grace Ruse and John Ruse)

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Fifth child of William HONEY and Joan DOWN

(1) James HONY b. c1736 Con, Eng. m. 18 Apr 1762 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC) m/to

Elizabeth PEARCY b. cc1736 Con, Eng.

1.	Mary HONY bp. 2 Jan 1763 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o James/ Elizabeth, OPR) or bp. 2 Feb (?)
2.	James HONEY bp. 24 Feb 1765 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o James/ Elizabeth, OPRs)

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Sixth child of William HONEY and Joan DOWN

Samuel HONY b. c1739

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THE THIRD GENERATION

son of John HONEY & Mary MARTIN

(2) John HONEY bp. 29 Jul 1759 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o John/ Mary, OPRs) m. 16 May 1782 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC) m/to

Mary CORNISH likely bp. 16 May 1762 Lewannick, Con, Eng. (d/o John & Mary,

OPRs) likely d. 7 Sep 1828 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC) aged 66 years

eight children (perhaps eleven) ‑ the third generation as follows

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first child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

(3) John HONEY possibly bp. 27 Oct 1782 Altarnun, Con, Eng. (s/o John/ Mary, IGI reg)

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second child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Mary HONEY bp. 5 Sep 1784 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Mary, OPRs)

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third child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

George HONEY bp. 17 Dec 1786 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o John jnr/ Mary, OPRs) bd. 26 Oct 1832 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (of this parish, OPR) aged 45 years, occ: labourer in 1831

Sarah b. 1785 Con, Eng.

1.	George HONEY bp. 24 Apr 1831 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o George/ Sarah, labourer, OPRs) m. c1855 Con, Eng. occ: farmer & grocer (27) in Sth Petherwin in 1861, beer house keeper (48) at 41 Ceceil Street in Plymouth in 1881 m/to Mary J b. 1832 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. occ: wife (28) in 1861, wife (48) in 1861
	A.	Imelia Gillbard HONEY b. 1859 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (Q3 1859 #5c/28 Launceston) occ: dau (1) in 1861, employed in shop (24) dau / head of house at 57 Cecil Street in Plymouth in 1881
	B.	Ada Jane HONEY b. 1861 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. occ: dau (1m) in 1861, employed in shop (24) at sisters in 1881
	C.	Mary G HONEY b. 1867 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. occ: scholar (13) in 1881
	D.	Thomas George HONEY b. 1869 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. occ: scholar (11) at sisters in 1861
	E.	Florence Kate HONEY b. 1873 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. occ: scholar (7) at sisters in 1861
	F.	Rebecca Maud HONEY b. 1873 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. occ: scholar (7) at sisters in 1861

1861 census - #10/38 Newland, South Petherwin, Con, Eng.

HONEY	George	1833	hd	m	27	Con	Sth Petherwin	farmer & grocer
HONEY	Mary J	1832	w	m	28	Con	Sth Petherwin	---
HONEY	Imelia G	1859	d	u	1	Con	Sth Petherwin	---
HONEY	Ada Jane	1861	d	u	1m	Con	Sth Petherwin	---
PEARCE	James	1840	serv	u	20	Con	Sth Petherwin	carter

1881 census - # Fo 93, Pg 4 at 41 Cecil Street, Plymouth St Andrew, Dev, Eng.

HONEY	George	1832	hd	m	48	Con	St Petherwin	beer house keeper
HONEY	Mary J	1832	w	m	48	Con	St Petherwin	---
HONEY	Mary G	1867	d	u	13	Dev	Plymouth	scholar
HINGSTON	Elizabeth	1840	serv	wid	40	Con	Mevagissey	---

1881 census - # Fo 69, Pg 19 at 57 Cecil Street, Plymouth St Andrew, Dev, Eng.

HONEY	Amelia G	1856	d/hd	s	24	Con	Cornwall	employed in shop
HONEY	Ada Jane	1860	d	s	20	Con	Cornwall	employed in shop
HONEY	Rebecca Maud	1873	d	s	7	Dev	Plymouth	scholar
HONEY	Florence Kate	1873	d	s	7	Dev	Plymouth	scholar
HONEY	Thomas George	1869	s	s	11	Dev	Plymouth	scholar

After the death of George HONEY (senior) in 1832 Sarah likely remarried to Richard JONAS farmer and they are in Kennards House Lane with young George HONEY in 1841

1841 census - #SthP #10/18/7 Kennards House Lane, Sth Petherwin, Con, Eng.

JONAS	Richard	1785	hd	m	55	farmer	y
JONAS	Sarah	1785	-	f	55	---	y
HONEY	George	1830	-	m	10	---	y

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fourth child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

(2) Richard HONEY bp. 18 Jan 1789 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o John/ Mary, OPRs) m. 19 Oct 1814 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC) bd. 22 Feb 1848 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (late of this village) aged 58 years, occ: butcher (50) of South Pertherwin in 1841

Susannah PARSONS b. c1790 Con, Eng. (d/o Roger PARSONS living with them in 1841) occ: wife (50) in 1841.

1.	Richard Parsons HONEY b. 1815 Con, Eng. d. 15 Oct 1818 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. aged 3 year (OPR-OPC)
2.	John HONEY b. 1827 Con, Eng. occ: son (13) in 1841

1841 census - # SthP 11/35/19, South Pertherwin Village, Con, Eng.

HONEY	Richard	1790	hd	m	50	butcher	y
HONEY	Susana	1790	-	f	50	-	y
HONEY	John	1827	-	m	13	-	y
PARSONS	Roger	1765	-	m	75	independent	y

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fifth child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Maryanne HONEY bp. 29 May 1791 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Mary, OPRs) likely m. 1 Jul 1812 Lewannick, Con, Eng. (OTP & South Petherwin, by banns) m/to

John HAWKE b. cc1791 Con, Eng. m/to

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sixth child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Elizabeth HONEY bp. 16 Jun 1793 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Mary, OPRs) possibly bd. 23 Dec 1827 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (OPR-OPC)

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seventh child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Ann HONEY bp. 7 Feb 1796 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (d/o John/ Mary, OPRs)

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eighth child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Thomas HONEY bp. 25 Feb 1798 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. (s/o John/ Mary, OPRs) m. 16 May 1824 St Mary Magdalene, Launceston, Con, Eng. d. 6 Feb 1842 (IGI patron) & bd. 9 Feb 1842 South Petherwin, Con, Eng. occ: labourer (40) in registers, ag lab (40) in 1841 m/to

Mary GOODMAN bp. c1800 d. 16 Jun 1851 Pt Adelaide, SA. occ: wife (40) in 1841

eight children taken to South Australia ‑ see the fourth generation in file HoneySecond

1841 census - #SthP #10/19/8 Kennards House Lane, Sth Petherwin, Con, Eng.

HONEY	Thomas	1800	hd	m	40	ag lab	y
HONEY	Mary	1800	-	f	40	---	y
HONEY	John	1830	-	m	10	---	y
HONEY	Maria	1831	-	f	9	---	y
HONEY	Charlotte	1833	-	f	7	---	y
HONEY	Richard	1841	-	m	m5	---	y
GRIMMOND	illegible	1810	-	m	30	ag lab	y

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ninth child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Maria HONEY bp. 8 Mar 1801 Lewannick, Con, Eng. (d/o John & Mary, OPR, IGI reg)

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tenth child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Charlotte HONEY bp. 8 Feb 1804 Lewannick, Con, Eng. (d/o John & Mary, OPR, IGI reg)

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eleventh child of John HONEY and Mary CORNISH

Samuel HONEY bp. 27 Apr 1806 Lewannick, Con, Eng. (s/o John & Mary, OPR, IGI reg)

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THE THIRD GENERATION

son of John HONEY & Mary MARTIN

this other Richard HONEY is uncle to Richard (1789) above

(3) Richard HONEY b. c1767 Con, Eng. (s/o John/Mary as he is uncle to Richard, son of John (1759)) d. 15 May 1843 Lewannick, Con, Eng. (h/o Jane in Lewannick, will) aged 76 years, occ: farmer (75) in Hicks Mill, Lewannick in 1841 m/to

Jane b. 1778 d. 24 Apr 1860 Con, Eng. aged 82 years: occ: wife (62) in 1841, of "Eliot Arms" in Parish of St Thomas the Apostle, Launceston in 1860.

	"Sacred to the memory of Richard Honey, Yeoman farmer of this Parish who died 15 May 1843, aged 76 years. Also Jane, his wife died 24 April 1860, aged 82 years. - gravestone in Lewannick Will of Richard Honey, yeoman of Lewannick 1843 "bequeathed to Jane Honey, widow, sole executrix of "Eliot Arms" property in the Parish of St Thomas the Apostle, and then to my daughters Grace Honey and Jane Honey (and not their husbands, but to their children, should the daughters die), and if daughters have no children, then to my nephew Richard Honey of the Parish of South Petherwin." signed ‑ his mark.
1.	Grace HONEY bp. 24 Dec 1815 North Hill, Con, Eng. (d/o Richard/ Jane, IGI reg) occ: dau (21) at home in 1841
2.	Janie HONEY bp. 21 Feb 1819 North Hill, Con, Eng. (d/o Richard/ Jane, IGI reg) d. 30 Sep 1864 Con, Eng. aged 45 years occ: publican (20) of "Eliot Arms" in St Thomas Apostle in 1841 (with cousin Kezia as female servant).

1841 census - # StTA 7/5/5, Eliot Arms, St Thomas Apostle, Con, Eng.

HONEY	Jane	1820	hd	f	20	publican	y
HONEY	Keziah	1825	-	f	15	fem serv	y

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"Sacred to the memory of Janie, daughter of the late Richard & Jane Honey of "Eliot Arms" of the Parish of St Thomas, Launceston who departed this life 30 September 1864 aged 45 years." - gravestone in Lewannick

1841 census - # Lewa 7/4/1, Hicks Mill, Lewannick, Con, Eng.

HONEY	Richard	1765	hd	m	75	farmer	y
HONEY	Jane	1778	-	f	62	---	y
HONEY	Grace	1819	-	f	21	---	y
WADGES	Isabella	1827	-	f	13	fem serv	y
MASON	William	1825	-	m	15	male serv	y
STANLAKE	William	1827	-	m	13	male serv	y

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an earlier family in the district - maybe connected

Degorie HONYE b. c1572 St Stephens in Launceston, Con, Eng. m. 6 Feb 1597 St Stephens in Launceston, Con, Eng. (IGI patron) (possibly brother of Nicholas HONY of Pillaton, Con, Eng.)

Siblye TOKER b. cc1572 Con, Eng.

1.	Nicholas HONYE bp. 4 Dec 1598 Saint Stephens By Launceston, Con, Eng. (s/o Degorie HONYE & Siblye TOKER, IGI reg)
2.	John HONYE bp. 20 Mar 1601 Saint Stephens By Launceston, Con, Eng. (s/o Degorie HONYE & Siblye TOKER, IGI reg)
3.	Joan HONYE bp. 13 Oct 1603 Saint Stephens By Launceston, Con, Eng. (s/o Degorie HONYE & Siblye TOKER, IGI reg)
4.	Joan HONYE bp. 9 Feb 1605 Saint Stephens by Launceston, Con, Eng. (s/o Degorie HONYE & Siblye TOKER, IGI reg)
5.	Degory HONYE bp. 24 Nov 1611 Saint Stephens By Launceston, Con, Eng. (s/o Degorie HONYE & Siblye TOKER, IGI reg)
6.	Martin HONYE bp. 1 May 1617 Saint Stephens by Launceston, Con, Eng. (s/o Degorie HONYE & Siblye TOKER, IGI reg)

another earlier family

James HONEY b. c1650 Con, Eng. m. 11 Nov 1670 Southhill, Con, Eng. (OPR)

Anne GRILLS b. c1650 Con, Eng.

1.	Anne HONEY bp. 18 Apr 1673 Southhill, Con, Eng (d/o James & Anne, OPR)
2.	Nicolas HONNY bp. 26 Oct 1676 Southhill, Con, Eng (s/o James, OPR, IGI reg) d. 3 May 1706 Southhill, Con, Eng. (OPR)
3.	James HONEY bp. 18 Mar 1680 Southhill, Con, Eng (s/o James, OPR, IGI reg)
4.	Jane HONNEY bp. 9 May 1684 Southhill, Con, (s/o James & Anne, OPR, IGI reg)

Mary HONEY b. Con, Eng. d. 25 Jul 1719 Southhill, Con, Eng. (OPR)

Joanna HONEY b. Con, Eng. d. 10 Oct 1733 Southhill, Con, Eng. (OPR)

Samuel HONEY b. Con, Eng.

1.	John HONEY bp. 23 Jul 1703 Southhill, Con, Eng (s/o Samuel, IGI reg)

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NOTES from ELSEWHERE

Thomas HONEY b. c1811 Con, Eng.

Jacoliah CRAZE b. cc1811 Con, Eng.

Phillipa Grace HONEY b. 1832 Kea, Con, Eng. (d/o Thomas/ Jacoliah CRAZE, IGI patron) d. 14 Jun 1870 Kea, Con, Eng. (IGI patron)

Thomas HONEY b. 1834 Kea, Con, Eng. (s/o Thomas/ Jacoliah CRAZE, IGI patron)

James HONEY bp. 8 Apr 1837 Wheal Busy, Con, Eng. (s/o Thomas/ Jacoliah CRAZE, IGI patron)

child HONEY b. 1839 Launceston, Con, Eng. (c/o Thomas/ Jacoliah CRAZE, IGI patron)

Richard HONEY b. c1841 Launceston, Con, Eng. (c/o Thomas/ Jacoliah CRAZE, IGI patron)

(entry by Kathleen S SCHROLLER, of 3132 NE Portland Blvd, Portland, OR USA. 97211)

Samuel Phillips HONEY b. 13 Jan 1842 Kenwyn, Con, Eng. (s/o Thomas/ Jacoliah CRAZE, IGI patron) d. 1 Mar 1862 Kenwyn, Con, Eng. (IGI patron)

Registers of the Chapelry of Chacewater, Kenwyn Parish.

p. 72, No. 575, 29 Dec 1833, Thomas HONEY, Thomas & Jekoliah HONEY, Wheal Busy,
Yeoman

p. 72, No. 576, 29 Dec 1833, Philippa Grace HONEY, Thomas & Jekoliah HONEY, Wheal
Busy, Yeoman

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Isabel HARRIS < crwys@onetel.net.uk > seeking Thomas P HONEY who married Jane BANT

1861 census - #1498 72 Judd Street, Marylebone, London

Thomas P HONEY b. 1828 Launceston, Con, d. 1873 London occ: police constable 1861

Jane BANT b. 1830 South Petherwin, Con, Eng.

HONEY	Thomas P	1828	hd	m	32	Con	Launceston	police constable
HONEY	Jane	1830	w	m	30	Con	Sth Petherwin	(nee BANT)
HONEY	Cornelius	1857	s	u	3	Con	Sth Petherwin	---
HONEY	Roger P	1858	s	u	2	Con	Sth Petherwin	---
HONEY	Susanna	1800	mot	wid	60	Dev	Sheepwash	---
HONEY	John	1837	bro	u	23	Con	Launceston	blacksmith journeyman

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stray

West Briton & Cornwall Advertiser - 8 Dec 1887

HONEY - At [?]Dobwalls, November 28, Mary, wife of Mr. Thomas Honey, aged 82 years.

(family of Vivian HONY < viv.hony@virgin.net >)

"Although, there is no obvious connection to your family, you may be interested in my line going back to Nicholas Hony, will dated 1622 whose brother, we think, was Degory Hony, whom you mention."

Nicholas HONY, yeoman, (d 1622)

m Pillaton (1589)

Joan BOOLE

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Flower John Joahn Elizabeth Nicholas HONY Sam

(1592 - ) (1604 - ) (1606/10 - ) (1590 - ) (eldest) (1596 - )

m Menheniot(1636) m Menheniot (1655)

Christain REED Jane NEILDER

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John HONY (1649 - 1715) Nicholas HONY (1655 - )

m Menheniot (1667) m Kilkampton (1672)

Dinah DINGALL ( - 1685) Margaret SHERM

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John HONY (1680 - 1747) Nicholas HONY (1673/3)

(Sheriff of Cornwall 1736) m Kenwyn (1702)

m Menheniot (1712) Grace ROW

Elizabeth STEPHENS of Cartuther |

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John HONY (1718 - 1768) Thomas HONEY (1709 - 1771)

m Menheniot (1747) m Duloe (1733)

Mrs Joan MORSHEAD Mary KEAST

(Aunt to Sir John Morshead) (1713 - 1789)

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William HONY (1754 - ) Thomas HONEY (1736 - 1793)

m (1782) m St Cleer (1762)

Selina BYAM (1760 - 1846) Elizabeth PARKIN

(Descended from the (1732 - 1823)

Earls of Essex and Oxford) |

| Thomas Henry HONEY

William Edward HONY B.D. (1788 - 1876) (1760-1849)

(Archdeacon of Salisbury) m St Cleer (1789)

m Mary DANIEL

Margaret EARL (1766-1852)

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Charles HONY m Annie Lewin William HONY m Emelia CHING

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Henry Charles* HONY m Dorothy Bell William Henry HONY m Mary THOMAS

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Henrietta HONY m Douglas Trotter Charles Herbert HONY m Beatrice BARON

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Charles Baron HONY m Grace Mabel HARVEY

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Baron Vivian HONY

From the attached you will see that William Hony married Selina Byam who was descended from the Earls of Oxford and Essex. William was Vicar of Liskeard and it would be fascinating to know how they met. Her parents were, as you can imagine, very well connected and Gainsborough painted his largest area of canvas of the family. H.C.Hony presented it to the Public School, Marlborough College, where he was educated, and the college recently sold it for £10 million. Yes, on that side of the family there was considerable wealth. My people were humble farmers in the St Cleer area. The brothers, John and Nicholas, founded a school in St Germans, near Saltash, both having inherited £60 from their father, a considerable sum in those days. (This and further trees below from Vivian HONY < viv.hony@virgin.net >)

HONY

Nicholas HONY

(1672/3 - )

m Kenwyn (1702)

Grace ROW

(16xx - 1712)

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Thomas HONEY

(1709 - 1771)

m Duloe (1733)

Mary KEAST

(1713 - 1789)

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|- John HONEY m Mary Jane Thomas HONY William m Prudence KEET -|

(1734 - 1800) (1736 - 1793) (1744 - )

|- Nicholas m Elizabeth BORROW m St Cleer (1762) Mary m Richard ELLIOT -|

(1737 - 1811) Elizabeth PARKIN (1742 - 1829)

(1732 - 1823)

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|- Joseph HONEY Thomas Henry HONEY John HONEY -|

(1763 - ) (1773 - 1849) (1775 - )

|- Nicholas m Rebecca WIDGER m St Cleer (1789) Mary m John GOVET -|

(1779 - ) Mary DANIEL (1770 - )

|- Elizabeth HONEY (1766 - 1852)

(1783 - 1820) |

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|- Prescilla Mary William HONEY Mary m Joseph COCK -|

(1800 - 18xx) (1795 - 1874) (1797 - 18xx)

|- Thomas m Mary DAVY m Stokenham, Devon (1828) Nicholas HONEY -|

(1802 - 18xx) Emelia CHING (1811 - 1811)

|- Jane m James PHILLIPS (1808 - 1839) Temperance m T.HOOPER-|

(1807-18 ) | (1792 - )

|- John HONEY | Elizabeth HONEY -|

(1805- ) | (1790 - 1813)

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William Henry HONY

|- Thomas m Ann Venning HARRIS (1830 - 1872) Mary Prescilla HONEY -|

(1833 - 1893) m Camborne (1858) (1835 - 18xx)

|- Theodosia m Joseph COGGINS Mary THOMAS m James BARKELL

(1838 - 1925) (1837 - 1934)

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William Henry HONY

(1830-1872)

m Redruth (1858)

Mary THOMAS

(1837-1934)

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|- Emily Mary HONY Charles Herbert HONY Laura HONY -|

(1859 - 1953) (1870 - 1937) (1865 - 1865)

|- Ellen Vivian HONY m Lanivet (1901) Francis Maud HONY -|

(1862 - 1958) Beatrice BARON (1867 - 1955)

|- Mary Ada HONY (1872 - 1966) Hedley Bramwell HONY -|

(1864 - 1964) | (1869 - 1869)

|- William Thomas m Lyn | Henry Vivian HONY -|

(1860 - 1938) | (1872 - 1872)

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|- Vivian Baron HONY Charles Baron HONY

(1903-1919)1. (1909-2000)

m Hurstpierpoint (1937)

Grace Mabel HARVEY

(1907-1972)

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Baron Vivian HONY Grace Mary HONY Charles Graham HONY

(1939- ) (1942- ) (1945- )

m Binbrook (1966) m Come-to-Good (1967) m Truro (1978)

Barbara WARD Robert GUTTRIDGE Pat SULLIVAN

(1944- ) (1943- ) (1950- )

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Clare Stephen Paul Mark Andrew

(1967- ) (1969- ) (1969- ) (1971- ) (1979- )

m Worcester m Samoa m M’ Vineyard m Notts m LosAngeles

(1992) (2001) (2003) (1997) (2002)

Gavin Jacky Wendy Elizabeth Deanna

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Abigail Harry

James Grace

Katie

ST GENNYS

FAMILY TREE OF Gary HONEY < gmhoney@rogers.com > and son Greg & Linda Honey [mailto:ghoney@ody.ca] of Belleville, Ontario, Canada

Magdalen HONEY b. c1750 Con, Eng. m. 24 Apr 1770 St Gennys, Con, Eng. (IGI reg)) m/to

John HARRIS b. cc1750 Con, Eng.

(5) John HONEY b. c1780 Con, Eng. m. 30 Jul 1804 Poundstock, Con, Eng. (IGI reg)) m/to

Francis ROWE b. c1778 Con, Eng. - likely the parents of

1.	Thomas HONEY b. 22 Dec 1804 Poundstock, Con, Eng. (s/o John HONEY & Frances, IGI reg) m. d. 10 May 1886 St Austell, Con, Eng. (G.Honey notes) occ: captain of slate quarries, occ: retired farmer m/to Mary b. 1806 St Neot, no visible children

two possible 1881 census links

1881 census - # RG11, Pc 2286, Fo 67, Pg 14 Dobwells, Liskeard, Con, Eng.

HONEY	Thomas	1803	hd	m	78	Con	St Cleer	farmer retired
HONEY	Mary	1806	w	m	74	Con	St Neot	---

1881 census - # RG11, Pc 2289, Fo 67, Pg 14 Dobwells, Liskeard, Con, Eng.

HONEY	Thomas	1804	hd	m	76	Con	Poundstock	farm labourer
HONEY	Elizabeth	1816	w	m	64	Con	Warleggan	---

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2.	William HONEY b. 1807 Con, Eng. d. 8 Sep 1849 & bd. Dundonald Cem, Colborne (G.Honey notes) m. c1830 Con, Eng. occ: ag lab (33) in Marshall's House, St Gennys in 1841 m/to Mary COWLING b. 1809 Con, Eng.
3.	James HONEY b. c1809 Con, Eng. d. 1845 lost at sea. wife & children
4.	John HONEY b. c1811 Con, Eng. first marriage m. c1840's Con, Eng. Annie GOULD b. Con, Eng.
	A.	Ellen HONEY b. c1840's Con, Eng.
	B.	John Gould HONEY b. 1850 Con, Eng. m. 7 Jun 1875 North Fredericksburg, Ont, Can. m/to Elizabeth Ann GOULD b. c1853 Con, Eng. a. Morton HONEY b. 10 Jul 1876 Ontario, Can. b. Fanny Myrtle HONEY b. 1879 Castleton, Ont, Can. c. Evelyn HONEY b. c1880's Orono, Ont, Can. d. Fred HONEY b. c1880's Ontario, Can.
	C.	George HONEY b. c1850's Con, Eng.

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	second marriage of John HONEY John HONEY b. c1811 Con, Eng. Charlotte SPAFFORD b. Con, Eng.
5.	Frances HONEY b. 1817 St Juliot, Con, Eng. d. 14 Nov 1891 Padstow, Con, Eng. unmarried (Q4 1891 #5c/67 St Columb) aged 75 years occ: possibly retired servant (66, b. St Juliott) head in Padstow in 1891 (#13/20/169)
6.	Martha HONEY b. 1821 Con, Eng. d. 1920 Waymart, PA, USA. m/to Richard WONNACOTT b. cc1821 1. Edward WONNACOTT 2. Richard WONNACOTT one of these sons m/to Sadie
7.	Edward HONEY b. 1817 Con, Eng. m. 1848 St Kew, Con, Eng d. 1884 Oak Hills, Ont, Can. m/to Susannah FORD b. 1814 Con, Eng. d. 1901 Oak Hills, Ont, Can.
	A.	John HONEY b. c1850's Con, Eng. died young
	B.	George HONEY b. 1850 Con, Eng. died young
	C.	Edward HONEY b. c1850's Con, Eng. m. Can. d. 1895 m/to Jennie MITCHELL b. c1850's Con, Eng. d. 1923

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(3) William HONEY b. 1808 St Gennys, Con, Eng. (s/o John HONEY & Francis ROWE) m. c1830 Con, Eng. d. 8 Sep 1849 & bd. Dundonald Cem, Colborne, Ont, Can. (G.Honey notes) occ: ag lab (33) in Marshall's House, St Gennys in 1841 m/to

Mary COWLING b. 10 May 1810 Con, Eng. (d/o William COWLING(1779-1842) & Elizabeth (1782-1829), GH notes) d. 18 Jul 1850 & bd. Dundonald Cem, Colborne, Ont, Can. (GH notes) (William COWLING b. 1778 occ: ag lab (62) living with daughter in 1841) occ: wife (31) in 1841

migrated to CANADA in 1842

1.	Elizabeth HONEY b. 10 Oct 1832 Con, Eng. (GH notes) bp. 6 Nov 1831 Jacobstow, Con, Eng. (s/o William & Mary, IGI reg) d. 6 Oct 1860 bd. Dundonald with infants, Colborne, Ont, Can. (GH notes) occ: dau (9) in 1841 m/to John ROWE b. cc1832
2.	James HONEY b. 1833 St Gennys, Con, Eng. (s/o William & Mary, IGI reg) m. 15 Jan 1862 Toronto, Ont, Can. d. 1913 Cherrywood, Ont, Can. occ: son (7) in 1841, lived in Wilson Settlement first m1/to Jane SAUNDERS b. 1842 d. 1888, - large family in Canada second m2/to Mary PHILLIPS (family of Gary HONEY and son Greg HONEY of Belleville, Ontario, Canada)
3.	John HONEY b. 11 Apr 1836 Con, Eng. (GH notes) m. Morristown, Tennessee, USA. d. 5 Oct 1901 Middleborough, KY, USA, occ: son (5) in 1841 m1/to Addie SPAFFORD b. cc1836 Fremont OHIO b. cc1836 occ: teacher\
4.	William HONEY b. 1838 Con, Eng. (GH notes) d. 1841 Con, Eng. (GH notes) occ: son (3) in 1841
5.	Mary HONEY b. 1840 Con, Eng. (GH notes) d. at Tillsonburg occ: dau (1) in 1841 m/to George NISBITT
6.	William HONEY b. 1842 Canada. (GH notes) d. 1910 Michigan, USA. (GH notes) m/to Nettie MORGAN in Michigan
7.	Thomas HONEY b. 30 Oct 1845 Ont, Can. (GH notes) d. 30 Dec 1851 Ont, Can. (GH notes) died young, aged 6 years
8.	Louis HONEY b. 3 Nov 1847 Ont, Can. (GH notes) d. 14 Sep 1848 Ont, Can. died young, aged 10 months
9.	Anna HONEY b. Mar 1851 Ont, Can. (GH notes) d. 14 Sep 1851 Ont, Can. died young, aged 6 months

1841 census - #ED 11, Fo 17, Pg 8 Marshalls House, St Gennys, Con, Eng.

HONEY	William	1807	hd	m	33	ag lab	y
HONEY	Mary	1809	-	f	31	-	y
HONEY	Elizabeth	1831	-	f	9	-	y
HONEY	James	1833	-	m	7	-	y
HONEY	John	1835	-	m	5	-	y
HONEY	William	1837	-	m	3	-	y
HONEY	Mary	1839	-	f	1	-	y
HONEY	Frances	1781	-	f	59	inmate	y
COWLING	William	1778	-	m	62	ag lab	y

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(6) John HONEY b. 1810 Con, Eng. m. 11 Nov 1832 St Gennys, Con, Eng. (IGI reg) m/to

Fanny EDWARDS b. c1815 occ: at home (25) of Samuel EDWARDS (father or brother) in Boscastle in 1841

1.	William Edward HONEY bp. 8 May 1834 St Gennys, Con, Eng. (s/o John HONEY & Fanny, IGI reg) occ: son (7) in 1841

1841 census - #ED 8, Fo 15, Pg 11 Bocastle, Minster, Con, Eng.

EDWARDS	Samuel	1801	hd	m	39	pauper	y
HONEY	Fanny	1815	-	f	25	-	y
HONEY	William	1833	-	m	7	-	y

(2a) James HONEY b. 1834 St Gennys, Con, Eng. (s/o William HONEY & Mary COWLING, IGI reg, GH notes) m. 15 Jan 1862 St James Anglican Church, Toronto, Ont, Can. (GH notes) d. 1913 Cherrywood occ: occ: son (7) in 1841, lived in Wilson Settlement m1/to

Jane SAUNDERS b. 1842 York, Toronto, Ont, Can. d. 1888,

1.	Mary Elizabeth HONEY b. 1863 Can. m. c1885 d. 1894 m/to William ISAAC b. cc1863 A. John HONEY b. 1886 Can. B. Lillian HONEY b. 1888 Can. d. 1889 C. William HONEY b. 1892 Can. d. 1894 D. Benoni HONEY b. 1894 Can.
2.	James S. HONEY b. 1864 Wilson Township, Toronto, Ont, Can. m. c1895 d. 1938 Milliken, Ont, Can. m/to Ida WEIR b. cc1864 A. William HONEY b. 1895 Can. B. Olive HONEY b. 1897 Can. C. Clayton HONEY b. 1901 Can. D. Helen HONEY b. 1912 Can.
3.	Charlotte Jane HONEY b. 1866 Percy Township, Toronto, Ont, Can. m. 13 Nov 1906 Nothumberland Township, Toronto, Ont, Can. m/to Levi William WICHER b. 1861
4.	William HONEY b. 1867 Can. m. c1900 d. 1950 British Columbia, Can m/to Agnes BOND b. cc1867 A. Max HONEY b. 1904 Can. B. John HONEY b. 1906 Can. C. Nellie HONEY b. 1908 Can. D. Reta HONEY b. 1913 Can. E. Phyllis HONEY b. 1920 Can.
5.	Susan HONEY b. 1871 Can. m/to John ISAAC b. cc1871 A. Leigh HONEY b. 1900 Can. m/to Lydia JONES b. cc1900 Ronald William HONEY b. c1925 Can.
6.	Charles Edward HONEY b. 23 Sep 1872 Percy Township, Toronto, Ont, Can. d. 1880
7.	Thomas H. HONEY b. 25 May 1874 Can. m. c1895 d. 1940 m/to Annie B. WEIR b. 31 Aug 1873 d. 23 Mar 1903 Harriet WICHER b. cc1874 A. Gordon HONEY b. 1896 Can. B. Vera HONEY b. 1898 Can. C. Earl HONEY b. 1899 Can. D. Effie HONEY b. 1913 Can. E. Henry (Harry) HONEY b. 1903 Can.
8.	Hedley HONEY b. 1882 Can. m. c1905 Saskatchewan, Can. m/to May D. POULTON b. Dewberry, Alberta Can. A. Effie HONEY b. 1905 Can. B. Marian HONEY b. 1910 Can. C. Edna HONEY b. 1911 Can. D. Lillian HONEY b. 1914 Can. E. Helen HONEY b. 1917 Can. F. James HONEY b. 1919 Can. G. Hedley HONEY b. 1922 Can. (family of interest of Jack BROCK < jbrock@telusplanet.net >)

second marriage of James HONEY

(2b) James HONEY b. 1834 St Gennys, Con, Eng. (GH notes) m. 15 Jan 1862 St James Anglican Church, Toronto, Ont, Can. (GH notes) d. 1913 Cherrywood, occ: son (7) in 1841, lived in Wilson Settlement m2/to

Mary PHILLIPS b. cc1834

(family of Gary HONEY and son Greg HONEY of Belleville, Ontario, Can

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ST GERMOE

A family centred in Germoe in the 1880's - from Germoe Marriages 1610 - 1812

William ROWE b. 1853 Con, Eng. (s/o Benjamin ROWE) m. 18 Sep 1875 Germoe, Con, Eng. (OPR online) occ: aged 22 in 1875 m/to

Mary Jane HONEY b. 1854 Con, Eng. (d/o John HONEY) occ: aged 21 in 1875

William Henry HONEY b. 1857 Con, Eng. (s/o John HONEY) m. 16 Feb 1878 Germoe, Con, Eng. (OPR online) occ: aged 21 in 1878 m/to

Agnes DINGLE b. 1853 Con, Eng. (d/o John DINGLE) occ: aged 25 in 1878

John MAJOR b. 1858 Con, Eng. (s/o John MAJOR) m. 15 Nov 1879 Germoe, Con, Eng. (OPR online) occ: aged 21 in 1879 m/to

Anna Maria HONEY b. 1859 Con, Eng. (d/o John HONEY) occ: aged 20 in 1879

Elijah MAY b. 1858 Con, Eng. (s/o John MAY) m. 25 Aug 1883 Germoe, Con, Eng. (OPR online) occ: aged 25 in 1883 m/to

Catherine HONEY b. 1865 Con, Eng. (d/o John HONEY) occ: aged 18 in 1883

Richard Honey JAMES b. c1860 Con, Eng. (s/o Richard JAMES) m. 22 Dec 1883 Germoe, Con, Eng. (OPR online) occ: full age in 1883 m/to

Mary Jane RICHARDS b. cc1860 Con, Eng. (d/o Edward RICHARDS) occ: full age in 1883

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The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, 15 Mar 1839

15 Mar 1839, Births,Marriages & Deaths
Marriages at Bodmin, ... and on the same day, Mr. William Honey, of Lanivet, to Miss Ann Rowe, of the same parish

The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, Friday 3 Jul 1840

RICHARD HONEY, 19 - was charged with having stolen 12 gallons of barley, the property of Samuel WARDEN, his master, of Endellion, and JOHN SKINNER, 50, of Port Isaac, was charged with having received the same, knowing it to have been stolen. It appeared from the statement of the advocate, which was borne out by evidence that in February last, Skinner had a gun which he offered for sale to the other prisoner, Honey; and on the latter telling him that he had no money to purchase it, Skinner said there is plenty of barley at home in your master's granary; I will take it up in barley as well as in anything else. On one Sunday evening, Honey, when his master's family were at chapel, and his master in the house, went into the granary and stole the barley in question. He then got his master's horse, and put the bag on it, taking with him a boy named STEER, a fellow servant, and proceeded to the premises of the other prisoner. When he reached there, he placed the barley in the garden, and then went round to Skinner's front door, and went into the house. Skinner afterwards went up stairs, and the witness heard a door that led into the garden creak; and on Skinner's return he brought with him a bag which he handed to Honey. There was other evidence which fully established the guilt of both parties; and the jury found them Guilty.

The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, Friday 10 Jul 1840

RICHARD HONEY, for stealing barley from Samuel WARDEN(?) of Endellion, Six Months' Hard Labor, and John SKINNER for receiving it, Nine Months' Hard Labor.

The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, 19 Nov 1841 Friday

At Redruth, on Friday, the 12th instant, Elizabeth, the beloved wife of Mr. John HONEY, conveyancer, after a protracted illness, which she bore with Christian fortitude and resignation. - Her end was peace.

The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, 1 Mar 1844 Friday – Local Intelligence

CORONERS_ INQUESTS - On Monday last, an inquest was held by MR. GILBERT HAMLEY, deputy coroner, in the parish of St. Keyne, on view of the body of RICHARD HONEY. It appeared from the evidence that the father of the poor little fellow saw him crossing a rivulet to get over to where he was

working; he stooped down to pick up some corn, and then lost sight of him.

He immediately went in search of his child with a neighbour, and some time after found him drowned in he river, about a quarter of a mile below where he saw him trying to cross. It was supposed that the child, who was only 4 years old, was picking some sticks in the river, as several were found in his apron, and losing his balance, fell into the water. Verdict - accidentally drowned.

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser 29 March 1850
CAUTION. I hereby give notice, that I will not pay any Debts which my wife ELIZABETH HONEY may contract after this notice. As witness my hand this third day of April 1850. Signed, WILLIAM HONEY, Witness, John QUIN. Penryn April 3, 1850.

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser 24 May 1850
DEATHS: At Fowey Mill, Fowey, on Friday last, Mr John HONEY, miller, aged 50 years.

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser 2 Sep 1853
At the New District Church, Charlestown, on Sunday last, Mr. William HONEY,
late of the Charlestown Iron Works, to Miss LANG, of Charlestown.

STRAYS from the 1871 census,

HONEY, William, Head, married, age 29, Signalman RN, born Millbrook-Con
HONEY, Elizabeth, Wife, age 24, born Stoke Damerel-Dev
Dwelling Place: 8 Princes Street Ope, Devonport-Dev.

The West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser, 23 May 1887

23 May 1887, Monday - Births,Marriages & Deaths
HONEY - At St. Cleer Village, May 17, Mr. John Jerey Honey, aged 70.

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser 30 May 1887
HONEY - At St. Cleer Village, May 17, Mr. John Jorey Honey, aged 70.

West Briton and Cornwall Advertiser 22 Sep 1887
HONEY - At Trenewnack, Marazion, December 15, the wife of Mr. William Honey,
of a son.

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