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Z E N I C A M A I L I N G L I S T No 0048
Mailing lista je pocela sa radom u decembru 1997 godine i dio je Internet projekta " Home Page of Zenica No-1" koji od 30.jula 1996. okuplja svu Zenicku dijasporu na Internetu , adrese i web stranice. Svrha mailing liste je : povezivanje svih Zenicana , pronalazenje prijatelja, komsija i poznanika , razmjena korisnih informacija kao i svega ostalog sto interesuje nase sugradjane , (bez politike) . Moderator liste je Safet Mangic a na listu se dospijeva i skida preko web stranice Upis na Listu Zenicana .
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" Il' me zeni il' tamburu kupi , ja u nesto udarati moram ..." Zeljko Bebek ....CD hitovi ...
Postovano gospodo ,
posto je "nestalo" vasih poruka , dodacu i ja "koju" .. Ovaj put je to impresija sa jednog lijepog dogadjaja, velike svadbene svecanosti ovdje u Perthu ...Uh , odakle da pocnem ....:-) Pa vrtile su se jedno par mjeseci zelje i cestitke za ovu svadbu , na mom i na ostalim radio programima ....Kako sam nacuo , nas oko 400 gostiju je dobilo pozivnice , i u subotu smo , jel i mi otjerali nasu "limuzinu" FORD FALCON 87 " na pranje ...hehehehe sve u stilu ... Stigli smo na vrijeme oko 4 sata popodne u QUEENS GARDENS , to su kao kraljicini vrtovi , ustvari jedan prekrasan veeeliikiii park , lijepo njegovan , sa pet sest onih jezercica i drvenih krovova , , ma znate na sta mislim ...kao mali sadrvani i par drvenih mostica...Tu je vec bilo par stotina nase raje , lijepo obuceno , za ovu priliku ...hehhehehee ... A Mlada je isto imala duuuguu prekrasnu vjencanicu ...($ 3000) i tako , ceremonija je mogla poceti , tu u prirodi...izrekli su ono sudbonosno :"DA" ...To su ustvari moji jarani , sin od predsjednika naseg sportskog kluba , svaki dan smo zajedno i tako ...treninzi . Ma ono , fino je vidjeti nase raje , pogotovo u ovoj prilici , kada su svi mnogo vise opusteniji , prirodniji , i t d ...Bile su tu i nase dvije MISS Bosnia 97 i 98 ...Ova od 97 je ujedno i MISS za cijelu Australiju...Ona je bila KUMA .... Eh , da malo skratim , duga kolona automobila na celu sa onom iznajmljenom bijelom LIMUZINOM od 8 vrata se trubeci uputila ka 30-tak KM udaljenom Bosanskom Centru gdje ce biti dakle proslava svadbe ...Mi smo predali nasa tri poklona (Velika VAZA , slika i knjiiga)... Ljudi moji , nas Centar nikad nije bio tako okicen i sredjen kao tada (ja sam ustvari bio samo na dvije svadbe prije)..Ovo su kao imucnije porodice i tako ..izvanredno aranzirani stolovi , podium , kicenje, baloni , muzika , konobari , ma sve na nivou ...A tek raja , hm , sad mi pade na pamet da je bilo dosta i onih koje nisam poznavao , a smio sam se zakleti da znam sve i jednog ..hm, hm..Anyway , fino je biti medju kolegama i poznanicima , cak i u ovom cosku zemljine kugle se osjetio onaj nas stari bosanski ili koji vec duh , i pomalo nostalgije....Cerka Jasmina je zacudo veoma lijepo slusala , imala je u stvari jednu prijateljicu vrsnjakinju , 4 godine obe i na svakoj zabavi i sijelu u Centru ili na stadionu , one su nerazdvojne...trce , skakucu i sl...A supruga ju je obukla pravo fenomenalno . Raja prilazi i pozdravlja se , salimo se , evociramo uspomene i lokalne stories..i tako ..Onda me je veoma iznenadila cinjenica da je orkestar poceo muzicirati sa pjesmom , tj temom iz filma TITANIK ...odsvirali momci pravo....Eh onda je pocelo , stolovi prepuni hrane , pica , meze , kolaca , bas kao u onim filmovima o americkim bogatasima...ma ovdje se nije stedjelo ...ni na cemu ..Veliki sjaj i raskos... I tako igralo se plesalo , zabavna i narodna muzika , znate vec ....ono ispocetka , onako .. a kasnije , udari ...udari u glavu , u mali mozak ..., nego sta....udari te sve ...atmosfera, raja , muzika ..hrana ...spici ti se .... pa pocnu halucinacije ...ma ne ONE , nego one , fine...ono , o kuci , emigraciji , proslosti ...razmisljanja o sudbini , filozofiranja i sve ostalo ....sjetis se ostatka porodice ...burazera , i rodjaka , i tako ...a muzika svira li svira ....pa malo izadjemo napolje sa cerkom Jasminom , na svjezi zrak ....popricamo sa kolegama...pa onda opet unutra delirijum , mlade djevojke igraju , plesu , lagano obucene , nasa mladost ...eh ... To vece sam bio ponjeo svu diskografiju naseg radio programa (CD i kasete), koja je ostala kod mene , dao sam je nasoj voditeljici omladinskog programa ....tamo negdje oko jedan ujutro ... Tada smo i krenuli kuci ...a sutradan nisam ni isao na utakmicu ...eh ... Ponedjeljak skola, Visual Basic i rodjendan od surabadje malog...opet duuuga voznja ...australijskim autostradama .... Evo sad utorak . kucam ovo pismo i idemo sutra da potpisemo papire za selidbu u novu novcatu kucu ...Imali smo i poziv telefonski iz Zenice i tako .....
Hej , COMBE je opet u Zenici .... Toliko o tome ...ako neko ima jos nekih slicnih iskustava, impresija , posaljite , please ...da malo razmisljamo , uporedjujemo , saznajemo ..i sl...
Slijede poruke nase Dijaspore :
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Podaci Aide Bajramovic :
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(sada zivi) SEATTLE,USA (tamo zivi od ) 21.8.95 (Ja sam sa) ODMUT,LACE ZAHIROVICA,LONDZA (Rodjen) 27.1.67 (Osnovna skola) MANOJLO POPIC (Srednja skola) GIMNAZIJA,PEDAGOSKA AKADEMIJA-MOSTAR (Bracno stanje) SINGLE (Omiljeno mjesto) ART (trenutno) ACCOUNTING ASSISTANT (Poznajem) NEKOLIKO (Najvise bih volio naci ) GELIC PREDRAG,mislim da je negdje u Auatriji CACO,RODE,JAVI SE! (Moji jarani) GELA,ADILA,FIKI (Sa mnom su) HAMCE-legenda (Slusam) GYPSI KINGS (Da li cu se vratiti u Zenicu ?) U POSJETU-DA (Ovaj e-mail je zasticen) NE (Da li zelim na mailing listu ?) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DA --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Safete) Mi se cujemo. (subject) Rezultati quiza (next-url) /TelevisionCity/2339/zenicaqu.html
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VOZDRA SAFETE Upravo sam prelistavao tvoje jaransko stablo i vidio sliku od mojih bivsih suigraca u fk RUDAR ALJE,KOJI JE RADIO U MELODICI ,MUCE IRAHMETLI SAJE SELIMOVICA .Ovaj posljednji je pogino u ovom prokletom ratu.Inace SAJO je bio moj najbolji jaran udjetinjstvu kao i njegov brat Rifko .stanovali smo u novoj Zenici a poslije su oni preselili na Meokusnice a ja u Radakovo .vidim poznajes jos jednog rudarovca PERKOVICA ,ON JE IGRAO SA MNOM U PODMLATKU MISLIM 94, 95 ,96 Poznajes li janjeta on je takodje sa Meokusnica?Jesi li i ti mozda igrao u rudaru ili ti je to raja iz komsiluka?Mozda nebi bilo lose kada bi idrugi slali slike od svojeraje i kada bi ih ti mogao ubaciti na jaransko stablo .TO BI BILO ONO PRAVO, EVO JA SADA IMAM SAJINU SLIKU A NIKADA GA VISE NECU VIDJETI . INACE OVO STO RADIS JE SUPER IMISLIM DA DRUGI BOSANCI NEMAJU NESTO SLICNO . PUNO POZDRAVA SVIM ZENICANIMA IZ HLADNE SVEDSKE OD ALMIRA I JASMINE CERIM ..ZENICANI U SVEDSKOJ JAVITE SE. CAO!--Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Safet Mangic
Safet : Cerime , lafe , ja znam Saju , ali nisam znao vise nije medju
zivima .Cak smo i sluzili JNA vojsku zajedno u Prilepu(MAkedonija).sjecam
se da mi je uvijek davao dva hljeba , kada je bio na liniji , mislim u
kuhinji u Kasarni u Prilepu...snimao sam ga na desetak turnira u malom
nogometu .Radio je bio kao graficar u DOMU STAMPE a stanovao je u zgradi ,
blizu mog Daidze, samo drugi ulaz...
Alija , je onaj iz Melodike , ispod LAmele...
Muco Nermin , eh Flino , odasli smo zajedno , sin od teta Raze , vocara na
Meokusnicama a kasnije na staroj pijaci , Progres..
Perkovic mi je zaista bio komsija . Da , svi su fudbal igrali veoma aktivno
...DRUGARI , cafe bar CELIK i slicni timovi i ponocni turniri na
Bilmiscu....
Eh , neznam sta da kazem ....sto se tice projekta Jaransko stablo .... Ja
mislim da ce licno meni pomoci da stupim u vezu sa svima onima s kojim
zelim , jer to je nekako jace od mene...samo se trazi ...to je dio mog
zivota . djetinjstva i proslosti , a ja to nekako izucavam......Naprimjer ,
ja znam da ce generacija 85 Metalske industrijske skole slaviti
dvadesetogodisnjicu mature ONLINE pomocu video conferency equipment ..., na
HOME PAGE OF ZENICA..., postavio sam cak sliku razreda iz 1985....Masinski
Tehnicari ....eh ...za samo pet sest znam gdje su ...
Ali , opet kazem , sastacemo se SVI ,BAS svi Zenicani ..jer ovo je jedino
mjesto ,.prije ONOG mjesta gdje se mozemo svi sastati ....
da da ..svi mi koji sada daleko od rodnog grada , u nekoj drugoj ulici , u
nasoj kuci i u radnoj sobi predvece u tisini gledamo ove male bajtove sto
nam igraju pred ocima na nasim PC ekranima i svi manje vise osjecamo isto
...
svi smo manje vise prezivjeli slicno i svi dozivjeli ove kulturoloske
,psiholoske , edukativne , generacijske , jezicke ,tradicionalisticke,
civilizacijske promjene i shokove u nasoj glavi ....Toga se naravno mnogo
bolje sjecaju oni koji su samo godinu dana vani ....Ovi stariji su
"malkice" zaboravili ...
Knjige se mogu napisati o svim tim osjecajima...ja nisam bas neki pisac ,
slova mi bjeze pocesto a i neznam se bas najbolje izraziti da opisem nesto
, ali s vremena na vrijeme javi se poneko ko ima smisla i tako , kad se sve
sabere , dobijamo komadic po komadic mozaika...
Nekome ce ova arhiva koristiti..Uh , dok nisam zaboravio ...text
"Emigration" izaziva sve vecu paznju posjetilaca HP Zenica ..iako je prije
dvije godine napisan i izgubio je dosta na vjerodostojnosti ,,,mislim ,
definitivno treba upgrade , jer "nista vise nije kao prije.."
Bas sam preko "pager"-a dobio poruku da traze nastavak texta , tj da im
poslajem citav text u cjelini... a prije toga i neki novinar je isto to
trazio.....ma neznam ja gdje je to sada, ali kada ispiti prodju cu valjda
naci vremena da dopunim text ...:-)
Da zavrsim polako ...eh ,..pisite i javite se sa svojim utiscima...Bajtovi
nisu skupi....budite aktivni clanovi u komjuniti-"(zajednici-na engleskom)
.Dakle trazimo svijest za okolinu i nesebicnost ....pa drustvena smo bica
i ne treba samo uzimati nego i davati ....onda i nafaka krene , trust me
!!!
ma neobavezno , naravno ..kada ko osjeti potrebu da se izrazi ...
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Novi Zenicanin , welcome:
(name) Enver Terzic
(email adress) beem07@idirect.com
(sada zivi) Toronto, Canada
(tamo zivi od ) April 08, 1989
(Ja sam sa) Blatusa
(Rodjen) April 21, 1960
(nadimak) Terza
(Osnovna skola) Rudi Cajavec
(Srednja skola) Metalska
(Bracno stanje) Ozenjen
(interesovanja) Nogomet, Lov, i Ribolov
(Omiljeno mjesto) Lovacki Dom, Metalurg, Saraj, Fontana
(trenutno) Tokar
(Najvise bih volio naci ) Begana i Bricu
(Web stranicu) No
(u anketi) Da
(Moji jarani) Began, Brico, Redzo, Cogo, Zvjezdan, Suce, Zoka
(Sa mnom su) Hadzija, Paso, Feta
(Slusam) Narodna, Nihad Fetic (Hakala)
(Sportista) Nogomet, Rusko i Tiha
(Da li cu se vratiti u Zenicu ?) Ako bog da
(Ovaj e-mail je zasticen) No
(Da li zelim na mailing listu ?)
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Ja
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(Poruka Zenicanima) Poslusajte Hakalinu pjesmu "Eh Zenice Grade Mili"
(Safete) Nastavi s radom jer dobro je da ima ovakvi stvari.
(subject) Rezultati quiza
(next-url) /TelevisionCity/2339/zenicaqu.html
Remote IP: 209.161.202.85
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Nasa raja na ICQ ...
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evo idem instalirati icq ako je dzaba jer placam internet 40 dollara
mijesecno
imam dva thanks pa ce mo se cuti ako imas nesto oko icqu napisi sto bi
trebao
znati jarane
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Evo prikljucio sam se na ICQ
I kako cu sada da nadzem zenicana ba
Safet : Hej u pravu si .. uskoro ce biti upgrade Lista ICQ Zenicki Nick-ovi
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za sada pretrzai MAILING LIST arhivu , imas spisak nickova svih Zenicana na
ICQ-u...
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Zdravo Safete
Ja sam prestao dobijati postu od tebe pa sam samo htio da ti javim da je
moja e-mail adresa d.tomasevic@student.qut.edu.au jos uvijek ista a davor
je dobio svoju posebnu adresu mtomasevic@hotmail.com
Inace ova e-mail lista mi se stvarno svidja, a takodje i tvoja web page.
Ja isto studiram u Brisbane information technology drugu godinu pa sam
takodje pomalo upoznat sa internetom.
Puno pozdrava
Dejan Tomasevic.
_Safet : Done !
and thanks ...:-)
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Zdravo Safete, dodje mi pod ruku ovaj text koji sam proslijedio i na
YuQWest, vrlo je smijesan/istinit :) i ako ti se bude uklapalo
proslijedi na ZeMail!
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
>> 1. Weed
>> 2. Vancouver: 1.5 million people and two bridges
>> 3. The local hero is a pot-smoking snowboarder
>> 4. The local wine doesn't taste like malt vinegar
>> 5. Your $400,000 Vancouver home is 5 hours from downtown
>> 6. A university with a nude beach
>> 7. You can throw a rock and hit three Starbucks locations
>> 8. If a cop pulls you over, just offer them some of your hash
>> 9. There's always some sort of deforestation protest going on
>> 10. Cannabis
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN ALBERTA
>> 1. Big Rock
>> 2. Preston Manning
>> 3. Tax is 7 percent instead of approx. 200 percent
>> 4. The Premier is a fat, wife-beating alcoholic with a grade 4
>> education
>> 5. Flames vs. Oilers
>> 6. Stamps vs. Eskies
>> 7. You can exploit almost any natural resource you can think of
>> 8. Eventually, it will be your town's turn to ban VLT's
>> 9. The Americans below you are all in anti-government militia groups
>> 10. You can attempt to murder your rich oil tycoon husband and get
>> away with it
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN SASKATCHEWAN
>> 1. You never run out of wheat
>> 2. Those cool Saskatchewan Wheat Pool hats
>> 3. Cruise control takes on a whole new meaning
>> 4. Your province is really easy to draw
>> 5. You never have to worry about roll-back if you have a standard
>> 6. It takes you two weeks to walk to your neighbor's house
>> 7. YOUR Roughriders survived
>> 8. You can watch the dog run away from home for hours
>> 9. People will assume you live on a farm
>> 10. Buying a huge John Deere mower makes sense
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN MANITOBA
>> 1. You wake up one morning to find you suddenly have beach front
>> property
>> 2. Amusing town names like "Flin Flon" and "Winnipeg"
>> 3. All your local bands make it big and move to Toronto
>> 4. The only province to ever violently rebel against the federal
>> government
>> 5. Hundreds of huge, horribly frigid lakes
>> 6. Nothing compares to a wicked Winnipeg winter
>> 7. You don't need a car, just take the canoe to work
>> 8. You can be an Easterner or a Westerner depending on your mood
>> 9. Because of your license plate, you are still "friendly" even when
>> you cut someone off
>> 10. Pass the time watching trucks and barns float by
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN ONTARIO
>> 1. You live in the center of the universe
>> 2. Your $400,000 Toronto home is actually a dump
>> 3. You and you alone decide who will win the federal election
>> 4. There's no such thing as an Ontario Separatist
>> 5. Your grandparents sold booze to the States during Prohibition
>> 6. Lots of tourists come to Toronto because they mistakenly believe
>> it's a cool city
>> 7. The only province with hard-core American-style crime
>> 8. MuchMusic's Speaker's Corner - rant and rave on national TV for a
>> dollar
>> 9. Baseball fans park on your front lawn and pee on the side of your
>> house
>> 10. Mike Harris: basically a sober Ralph Klein
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN QUEBEC
>> 1. Everybody assumes you're an asshole
>> 2. Racism is socially acceptable
>> 3. The only province to ever kidnap federal politicians
>> 4. You can take bets with your friends on which English neighbor
>> will move out next
>> 5. Other provinces basically bribe you to stay in Canada
>> 6. The FLQ
>> 7. Your hockey team is made up entirely of dirty French guys
>> 8. The province with the oldest, nastiest hookers
>> 9. NON-smokers are the outcasts
>> 10. You can blame all your problems on the "Anglo bastards"
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN NEW BRUNSWICK
>> 1. You are sandwiched between French assholes and drunken celtic
>> fiddlers
>> 2. One way or another, the government gets 98 percent of your income
>> 3. You're poor, but not as poor as the Newfies
>> 4. When listing the provinces, everyone forgets to mention yours
>> 5. The economy is based on fish, cows, and ferrying Ontario
>> motorists to Boston
>> 6. No one ever blames anything on New Brunswick
>> 7. You have French people, but they don't want to kill you
>> 8. Everybody has a Grandfather who runs a lighthouse
>> 9. Just as charming as Maine, but with more unemployed fishermen
>> 10. You probably live in a small seaside cottage with no television
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN NOVA SCOTIA
>> 1. The only place in North America to get bombed in the war ... by
>> a moron who set a munitions ship on fire
>> 2. Your province is shaped like male genitalia
>> 3. Everyone is a fiddle player
>> 4. If someone asks if you're a Newfie, you are allowed to kick their
>> ass
>> 5. The local hero is an insane, fiddle playing, sexual pervert
>> 6. The province that produced Rita MacNeil, the world's largest land
>> mammal
>> 7. You are the reason Anne Murray makes money
>> 8. You can pretend you have Scottish heritage as an excuse to wear a
>> kilt
>> 9. The economy is based on fish, lobster, and fiddle music
>> 10. Even though it smells like dead sea animals, Halifax is
>> considered Canada's most beautiful city
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND
>> 1. Even though more people live on Vancouver Island, you still got
>> the big-ass bridge
>> 2. You can walk across the province in half an hour
>> 3. You were probably once an extra on "Road to Avonlea"
>> 4. This is where all those tiny red potatoes come from
>> 5. The economy is based on fish, potatoes, and CBC TV shows
>> 6. Tourists arrive, see the "Anne of Green Gables" house, then
>> promptly leave
>> 7. You can drive across the province in two minutes
>> 8. It doesn't matter to you if Quebec separates
>> 9. You don't share a border with the Americans, or with anyone for
>> that matter
>> 10. You can confuse ships by turning your porch lights on and off at
>> night
>>
>> TOP 10 REASONS TO LIVE IN NEWFOUNDLAND
>> 1. The poorest, stupidest, drunkest province in Confederation
>> 2. If Quebec Separates, you will float off to sea
>> 3. In the rare case when someone moves to the Rock, you can make
>> them kiss a dead cod
>> 4. The economy is based on fish, seafood, and fish-related products
>> 5. If you do something stupid, you have a built-in excuse
>> 6. You understand the meaning of Great Big Sea's lyrics
>> 7. The work day is about two hours long
>> 8. You are credited with many great inventions, like the
>> solar-powered flashlight and the screen door for submarines
>> 9. If someone asks if you're from Nova Scotia, you are allowed to
>> kick their ass
>> 10. It is socially acceptable to wear your hip waders on your wedding
>> day
Best regards,
Nenad
nesho@geocities.com
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ah933/nenad.html
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Thanks ...
Well folks , that's all for now ...
You have been reading 48-th Zenica mail post ....
Bye for now ...
Safet M.
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